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Joe Giessinger's avatar

What stands out is how easily strong demand gets mistaken for evidence of fair value. The wine sold, so the release looked successful—but that success belonged largely to the merchants, not necessarily to the collectors who bought it. I’m not convinced the market has become any better at separating scarcity and launch momentum from actual investment value. As long as the downside sits with the collector, what incentive does anyone else have to become more disciplined?

sean DB's avatar

Working for an importer myself, and firstly done EP-tasting this year. it seemed obvious that sales in red bordeaux wine is struggling with merchants offering tastings of bottled 2023 vintage, meaning there is plenty of stocks left. (sooner or later offered at a discount, lower than EP-pricing. damaging the chateauxs image/brand)

Lets not stick to Bordeaux alone.

We got deliberately offered Napa Cab from relatively unknown brand, however very good producer, at 50% of its normal pricing ex-cellar.

The question as a (merchant) buyer is: Should we go in on this offer or not?

(in our case, depends on the taste/quality of the wine!)

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I think it depends on the strategy of the (merchant) buyer. I can in this case only speak of ourself: We only offer EP wines to our retail customers that we, as a team of tasters, have tasted good and within the palate of our customers. In 2021 we bought, a little, compared to 2019 and 2020 EP but we did not offer it to our clients. This sound counterintuitive, BUT it gives us on the long term a better connection and trust with our customers. Later the constumers will solely buy this wine on the brand name OR taste. (as we host daily tastings) However, some clients insist us to buy centain wines for them, mostly in the form of large formats, which IMO is one of the only strenghts of the EP-system to this day! The consumer can choose a size of bottle that will not be available later!

a 3L of Petrus or a 6L ausone is not something you encouter everyday.

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